[Nope. Mike and Bryce explain why understanding the truth is so vitally important. Why is she not seeking the confirmation of the Holy Ghost? Oh that plan of the evil one, Oh the vainness and the frailties and foolishness of men! I look forward to the day when were all living in peace and harmony, of one heart and one mind. It takes the seeker after a sign to the next level. Sandra Dawn Brimhall and Dawn Retta Brimhall. I am wondering if I could get your comment, (off record of course) re a member named James T. Prout. This principle is explained here: Alma 12:9 And now Alma began to expound these things unto him, saying: It is given unto many to know the mysteries of God; nevertheless they are laid under a strict command that they shall not impart only according to the portion of his word which he doth grant unto the children of men, according to the heed and diligence which they give unto him. Press the space key then arrow keys to make a selection. Michael passed away in December 2019. And the whole time they dont realize the illusion that they are creating. What a dilemma! This is a list of well-known Mormon dissidents or other members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) who have either been excommunicated or have resigned from the church as well as of individuals no longer self-identifying as LDS and those inactive individuals who are on record as not believing and/or not participating in the church. And yet it is exactly the same thing they have done. Rush on Facebook. I found it rather amusing when Kimberly suggested that perhaps Mary Ann has a devil because she eerily posted something that Kim did not agree with. All people are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Thanks for your input, Scootd28. Shunned by family and friends and their church clergy because of lack of understanding of the spirit world. It was an experience he had a seminary teacher. There was also no reason to test the spirits as the author accuses. Stroud said it almost feels like your being drawn upward. So I had a lady call me up a while back and she is up in Utah and she said brother Stroud can I share with you this experience, and I said please do it.She says I saw man and I dont know if I was in a dream or vision, I dont know what it was, but I saw man and he was standing in the distance and he was looking at me. Benson or whoever stated the proverbial straw that broke the marriages backs. I would like to invite all who have served missions in Spanish-speaking or Portuguese-speaking countries, if you can, to refer these podcast lessons to those men and women that you worked with in the mission field and put them in touch with the Spanish translation of these Book of Mormon lessons and well soon have the first lessons in Portuguese. (Podcast 012: 1 Nephi 12, abt 20:19), The reason I suspect this was an issue is that in Strouds podcast where he announces his excommunication, he notes that he is only continuing the series at the encouragement of his children. Taking a liberal approach has not saved liberal churches from rapid decline. Post As you kneel down in prayer before reading the book, ask the Lord to send these men and these women to you to teach, instruct, give greater understanding, and even visions and manifestations to you (Podcast 023: 1 Nephi 22, abt 4:14) Ive seen one critic use the word conjuring to describe what Brother Stroud recommended. Yet, they are ignored, as, apparently, are the canonized scriptures such as the Bible, BOM, and D&C. And he always states if he is giving his own opinion about something and it is only to be considered by the guidance of the spirit. Send us comments about our Author Pages. Very good comments. Anything God wants you to know is either (1) already in scripture or (2) told direct to your mind. He is not in a position to be receiving revelation for anyone other than himself, his family and those he had/has stewardship over. Even though many people have heard Gods voice, received instruction from God or various angels, they are usually instructed either by scripture or by inspiration to not publish such revelations. While joy and cheer attend thy choice, Retrieved June 10, 2018. I have heard good things about a Course in Miracles and I have the book. This is where it can be hard to find a balance. Rush, author of: A Remnant Shall Return-Daniel 11-REVELATION the Vision of John Divine. But theres plenty of spooks in the church who consider themselves experts on this matter and have plenty to say about it and how evil and occultic it is. I know when Stroud got excommunicated, Julie Rowe suggested she would likely suffer the same fate (though I didnt get the impression it was imminent). 97. Did you testify that Jesus is the Christ to ones that dont know and that by the shedding of His blood your sins are forgiven.And that the shedding of the blood of Christ is in the covenant of the Father( moroni10:33).? I do not know him at all, but I have learned a great deal from his teachings of the scriptures. And unrighteous dominion thrives. Im not saying that Christ would say that, but its the message that is often received by fallen man. When youre old you can wear purple and think outside the big box occasionally, and when you do, sometimes wondrous things happen. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. At the time of this writing, Michael is the Corporate Controller of a $5 billion manufacturing company. William Tompkins - Apollo Program - Interactions with Human ETs, Military Personel Address National Press Club Regarding UFO's Interacting With Our Nuclear Weapons, Robert O. Thing is, hes right. Michael B Rush may have been arrested in or around of Florida, on or around Oct 30, 2010. I was very saddened to learn of Mike Strouds excommunication, but why was his wife also excommunicated? Were it up to me I would leave some roles unfilled rather than put uninspired, unworthy persons in there. I found more truth and insight from mikes podcasts than I have from general conferences and sacrament meetings since the early 80s. Rather, he continually and fervently directs listeners to seek the spirit, keep the commandments, follow the prophets, study the scriptures, attend the temple, ponder, pray, fast, and serve one another. $383,000 MULLICA TOWNSHIP As Rush said, at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies, there are no degrees because the learning never stops. Michael B. Abramson is a practicing attorney. I am a convert, as a teenager, and against the wishes of my father (an atheist). .. On the other hand, there are also many in our faith who truly believe that the illusions of separation and comparison are a very real thing. Theres that little humor again I know.. Related To Shirley Rush. In my prayers I give thanks for what I have and very seldom ask for anything. If it isnt we might as well stay home on the Sabbath ,and watch the telly and drink beer. View and manage who you follow on Amazon. Second, Stroud suggested that the Lord inspired this podcast series for a specific audience, and he asked for help reaching that audience. Michael Mansour Rush, 69. If you seek professional advice, please see a licensed professional with your respective government. It started off as a lark but after getting a taste of the attention and the power it gave them, they developed an appetite for it. To me, that is the difference. Conscience and Community: Sterling M. McMurrin, Obert C. Tanner, and Lowell L. Bennion. Brother Sky, I agree its a very fine line. Beckoning Frontiers: Public and Personal Recollections. Nor is it any different from what i have heard lots of G As teach over the last 60 years. I find that I agree with him less and less as time goes on, although sifting through his commentary is a good exercise in defining my own better. All you have to do just read what was actually said and the authors deception is right there. This is why I believe that actual contact with God and angels is considerably more common that perhaps many believe; because each such person keeps these things private and sacred. [I have seen no evidence that Mike Stroud has done this he has bent over backwards to indicate his public support of church leaders, both general and local.] What is told to your mind might be from God, might not be. The superficial milk seeking, moralistic therapeutic diesism found in the minds of those like yourself have changed the way we teach the doctrines of the gospel over the course of my life and I am greatly disappointed by your ilk. Comparing oneself to others cannot make that person any more of what they are nor does it make the other persons any less than what they are. JR sorry you think my response is inadequate. "No Pain, No Game". God forgive you for what youve done. Michael B. Jordan Rented Out an Entire Aquarium for Valentine's Day Date with Lori Harvey! This is the bottom slider area. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. But I knew the couples and knew there were strains and rifts and issues long before Pres. And there are other examples from the past year. And thus again the hypocrisy. Michael Rush currently lives in Franklin, TN; in the past Michael has also lived in Draper UT. Also I have pondered a lot on the fact that Lehi was not a prophet in his day but a regular man that spent some time pondering the teachings of prophets and had a vision and shared that vision. This is the pattern of many who refuse to humble themselves when they ere. Rush was the first LDS scholar to accurately decipher the prophetic writings of Ezra now known as Ezra's Eagle. Towards the end of the Saviors earthly ministry, His disciples came to Him with several questions concerning the future: Tell us what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? First, Stroud got specific when describing a process to commune with heavenly beings. (I wasnt aware hed started podcasting again until after his excommunication, so there was a lot to catch up on.) As far as the gospel is concerned, were not supposed to be afraid of anything including deception. [Nope.] From One of Many Excommunicated by WELS. While studying at BYU, Michael met and married his wife Amy - a beautiful Kansas girl. His original analysis has been studied by students of the scriptures in over 130 countries worldwide, and is included in his first book - A Remnant Shall Return first published in 2015. In a very few cases, the list below may include former adherents of other Latter Day Saint movement denominations who have ceased identifying as members of the Church, as well. Astral projection is basically when someones spirit consciously leaves their body and then returns. The scriptures reinforce again and again that, in the government of God, there is an hierarchy of noble and great ones who lead with God-given authority. 26 After bearing a heartfelt testimony of the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, President Russell M. Nelson, and deity, Brother Stroud announced he'd been excommunicated for apostasy. Perhaps the authors research on this topic was poor, but this quote has come up on social media a number of times and Im a bit surprised the author has not seen it. I do not seek GIFTS. Since this council, Ive seen abundant evidence of the existence of this fallen law. I want to flag one because it relates to a recent post. This is the word that I had NO IDEA what it meant until that year in Alaska! I am thankful for these choice lessons from an excellent teacher, and I mourn with Bro. Michael also answers to Michael B Rush, Michael Brando Rush and Michael Brandon Rush, and perhaps a couple of other names. They believe they can see evil that others cant. Stroud has taught no false doctrines that I can discern. Both are tools to measure the truth of something. According to the Church, When someone obtains the Second Comforter, Jesus Christ will appear to him from time to time, will reveal the Father, and will teach him face to face (D&C 130:3). For Stroud, the Book of Mormon brings people closer to Christ and the heavenly hosts, literally. Contact Us - Privacy Policy - Terms and Conditions. At The Disco's frontman on being the only original member left", "Out to Win: Panic! Rush Limbaugh's Death Certificate Includes a Final Boast. This of course presumes one can discern good fruit from bad. We accept him as a prophet because his story is in the scriptures instead of a current podcast. I second the fact that Mike gives exact quotes, uses only scriptures and teachings of Latter-day prophets in his podcasts. In a new Helps by Topic page, there is a link to False Revelation and Gospel Extremism. In that category, there are a couple scriptures, several talks by apostles, and even church history resources. I had many questions and nobody to ask. It also hinders our ability to love. Stroud that he has been excommunicated and called an apostate, and is so harshly judged by so many. I love the gospel of Jesus Christ, His atoning sacrifice. But its not just about spending time with deity. My response:. Her six kids are totally screwed up. Are there saints among them? Marriner Eccles. Handbook 1 Section 6.7.3 includes a special Mormon-speak definition of apostacy. Mikes telling us he was excommunicated for apostacy doesnt actually tell us why. Let's do it again!"? As much as Mike Stroud was loved at that meeting and in the online community, there would be others who would hate him just as much. Cricket pie. Pretty soon after that he taught his wife how to have visitations. ], Mary Ann i generally agree with your analysis . Replace it with righteous dominion? When will they return? As Rush said, at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies, there are no degrees because the learning never stops. Michael B. Abramson is a practicing attorney. We cannot develop faith if we have fear. Brother Strouds narrative is indeed lacking in much that might legitimize it. But we laugh at those ideas today. I really hope we can preserve it all together, because I think a huge part of the value of Mormonism is in our organizational strength and size and reach. Michael B Rush wrote this book as a study into The Lost 10 Tribes of Israel. However, this is not the case at all. The newly-confirmed couple was seen leaving the Caribbean island of St. Barts together after several days soaking up the sun. While I still dont know the specific basis of the determination of apostacy, your comment provides some context in addition to those few podcasts, Mary Anns article, and Bellamys comments. That said, I cant subscribe to his reasoning of Isaiah 28 from the video posted. the FRUIT of a good tree is good fruit, a bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit. Thank you for this update on Mike Stroud. But its my understanding that he is appealing their ruling so well see how that goes. This rescue brigade, to liberate and deliver the captive House of Israel throughout the nations of the world, are referred to in scripture as the 144,000. Includes Address(5) Phone(4) Email(1) See Results. Generally speaking people who advance in true knowledge and understanding, and lets presume Brother Stroud is one such, grow in learning to recognize what I call the fingerprints of God that identify a particular spiritual experience as originating from God. He said, "Undoubtedly angels often guard us from accidents and harm, from temptation and sin. scootd28: I wish it were more readily accepted to talk about sacred things without pushback. Thanks for the write up. Alfred Knopf, 1951. My heart hurts. The true pandemic (we haven't seen the real pandemic yet) will be horrible and the news of it so bad that it will be just as painful to hear the news of the plague as it will be to experience it. This is youre basic McCarthyist style, witch accusing, intimidation tactic that is used to try and gain total control over perception and the situation. Epoch Times Documentary - Who is Stealing America? But as far as our spiritual eyes are concerned, there is no hierarchy. including by not limited to: legal, investing, financial, medical, accounting, or any other professional advice. The timing of the restoration of the nation. Its separation that brings about other fallen concepts you pointed out like comparison, competition, contention. 2 Ne 9:28 LDSFreedomForum.com does not necessarily agree with all content posted by users of this forum. Mike Stroud is teaching all of these NEW and EXPERIMENTAL concepts that are NOT based on any scriptural truths or words of the Prophets. Repeatedly act in clear, open, and deliberate public opposition to the Church or its leaders. After the excommunication was announced, those behind the Google doc and Mike Stroud Podcast Exposed Facebook page were blamed for the disciplinary action and received public backlash. He is also an adviser with the National Diversity Coalition for Trump. The grandparents shared a pie with some local American Indian friends, and they were later given a crude type of pie in return. Mike Stroud set himself up as a light about the Prophet of God and convinced people that it would be through his Podcasts that THE REMENT would be awakened and they were the ones chosen to prepare the way for the second coming of the Lord. Shiver me timbers! Till thine elections sure, Disclaimer: Nothing on this site gives specific professional advice. What would you people say to someone who, years ago, received very specific revelation on how to cure a vaccine injured child (think "Alma Smith" type revelation - if you don't know the Alma Smith story, look it up)? Michael passed away in December 2019. Number 2 however is very likely. This is the current definition of apostasy per the handbook: If they did, then I hope they will have another look at it with closer discernment, to see what is really going on here. Im not sure I have desires with regard to what God may offer. I really like A Remnant Shall Return (which covers Ezra's Eagle) and Daniel 11. But he never told him not to take heed of deception. I cant even wrap my head how he spun the unvaccinated into the covenant if death. That America was prophecied 2600 years ago and it's fate was already chosen. Heres my take on that. As growing up in the 60s and 70s these stories were faith building. How did they get there? What mightve gotten him in trouble this time? Its okay that Wilford Woodruff had the vision of the founding fathers asking him why their work wasnt done (even though it had been done previously) but its not okay if someone else has them? Visions of Glory: One Man's Astonishing Account of the Last Days Nelsen, Transition Integrity Project - full document, Rich Higgins National Security Council Memo - Deep State, Article on the Pentagon and unidentified aerial phenomenon, Marco Rubio on off-world crafts in our top-secret air space. So what exactly is the fruit of Mike Strouds podcasts? I put it this way because too many people think that love is an action word, and for them perhaps it is. This man is willfully ignorant and a deceiver. [56:02] There is in our day, and in the day to come, the formation of a rescue brigade. The Judeo-Christian tradition places the tribes of Israel as privileged or chosen in some way; it is what it is, but remember the parable of the marriage ceremony where the chosen people invited to the wedding did not accept the invitation and instead the highwaymen (gentiles, me in other words) were invited to the wedding in their place. 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