Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. I dont know this man very well, but he wasnt in on this crime. DP's appearance is a cross between the two sketches. But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City. You said in your blog that Mr. X was friends with Ron Logan. - would this mean that Qs DNA could be used to see if it is a familial match to bridge guy? It also explains the female witness who said that she saw a young man walking near her home by the bridge who said that he was waiting on his Dad. It's really not that hard. Then email me and and I will give you the link and password and I will also let you into the new forum where you can set up your own name and password. We believe that his truck got towed later on when his wife never showed up with the keys, that Mr. X searched Ron Logans land that evening with two other men, and that he left his truck sitting in that same spot for 18 hours until the next day when the bodies were found. Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. We believe him. Entertaining and a breath of fresh air. They were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, Fox59 reported, which is part of the Delphi. No, LK is the real deal. There were definitely some perverse acts done to these girls, but I believe they were done to them after they were already dead. Im sure his wife Mrs. X knows or suspects what he has done but she wont roll overKeep up the great work and hopefully they get this SOB! R/LibbyandAbby is awful, but its a lot better than r/DelphiMurders. "You want to know what we know one day you will.". Logistical occupations, Construction workers etc who travel have free reign. I'll be happy to represent Nic and the Captain if it happens. Can you explain to me how LE would know that BG filmed his crime if he didnt send that crime footage to the girls phones? However, some people are stupid enough to sue even when they are guilty. The behavior of LE throughout the entirety of this case is, to put it as nicely as possible, questionable, and to state the truth, just plain stupid. Its a new development in a story News 8 was the first to report last week. The gun is a rare collectors item, possibly a .40mm. Do you think the POI drove to the Mears lot immediately after the crime or left the area? Stay tuned. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. On and on. Dime a dozen. However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. In Lafayette -- about 20 miles away from Delphi -- a 10-year-old girl . Instead pay attention to this new sketch, some kid. It turns out that BGs shoes are dead perfect matches for Indiana Packers workboots. Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. This was a sex crime, a sex homicide. If you have saved images or conversations with the anthony_shots profile, please attach them to your email, the release said. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. If the father was an underage boy, Im not sure anyone cares. Ron Logan: Enough already. He uses all kinds of weird aliases. And if Mr. X was being tried today and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. Jersey dude felt so slighted that the Reddit world didn't stop what they were doing to acknowledge Skip's strange trip that he felt he needed to make a post himself to berate those who didn't offer to pay for Skip's gas. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. Most of Leigh Kerrs and the search party members testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? The only places he differs is where he thinks that the police are wrong! Another reason he stayed is we believe that he enjoyed the drama. I don't think it was directly addressed in the episodes, but are you able to speculate on what degree of premeditation (if any) would your theory would have required on the part of your suspect? Did he not see BG? If I happened to be out that day lets say partying or doing some stuff that maybe I shouldnt have been doing, and I witnessed something and had information Im telling you right now, I would think twice, then I would think two more times before I would even consider coming forward because I would be scared shitless that LE would throw my ass in jail for something completely unrelated just like they did to RL. Holder has an alibi that he was working out at a gym at the time. So hes a murderer. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered . We believe he could have been staging that elaborate crime scene during that time. I have one more message for you. All the while suspect has a conflated alibi from the girls he was with not knowing what he did when he was alone without him. They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. Id rather not look into the NHI* (no humans involved) cases in the ghetto where one group of scumbags shoots up some other group of scumbags. But they didnt get to ask him about PB. Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! Hello, i live in cedar rapids , ia. One daughter, estranged. CARROLL COUNTY, Ind. With Skip and Faceman's theory, this is starting to make sense. Actually, Jack, the families do not know at all. Perhaps a parent(s) was involved particularity in the cover up especially since the killer was inexperienced at covering their tracks. Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. See, Im not like how they say at all, am I? Did the girls have wet clothes where they were found? Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s Dad jeans. That most likely wouldn't happen without resources like this constantly keeping attention on cases. But they used experts to clean it up with fancy software and groups of experts got together to try to figure out what was being said. The residents of Big Pine Key, Little Torch Key, and No Name Key were frightened and rightfully so. ? thats tough luck usually)I agree with him that it was probably Logan that gave the cops details on Kirts to get out of the clink The cops say the killer made a mistakeI bet it was probably something left behind in one of Logans barns or shacks. BG is a 50 year old man. Dad is BG and KAK is waiting under the bridge. There was posing. Hes a straight man with a wife, but maybe hes wimpy like a lot of straight men are. We openly admit that much of what we are saying about this crime are unverified rumors. Also his personality is nothing like Scott Alexander, some sock who is claiming to be LK on Facebook groups. He could have even confessed to me, but I am still not under obligation to tell the cops. We want to stress that Kline has not been charged in the murders of Abby and Libby. Say a POI ends up arrested for any type of felony; with probable cause, LE can then run their DNA through CODIS. They all go off and do their own work. He was searching for the girls. Why would they deliberately contradict their own beliefs? Have you guys/Skip discussed or explored the theory that DP is covering for someone else - hence the inconsistencies to his story. We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life. We believe this because this is what we were told. They said theyve conducted dozens of secondary investigations based on information in the murders of Abby and Libby. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. And with the evidence they currently have, they havent proven it. The suspect has since moved back to North Carolina, and young women have begun to disappear from the trails there now. I dont get it. Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. The crime was committed in February 13 or 2/13. Maybe. The motive is apparently lust murder motivated by sexual sadism combined with psychopathy, the classic formulation almost all serial killers have. We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up. I cant see where this is! I'm being very careful in applying that theory to what is available, but it has made sense of the two sketches being so different. In these cases, we have 4-5 separate sources, usually vaguely referred to as inside sources, testifying to the truth of something. We agree with that because we think they were sitting in his pocket the whole time! How bout taking it to heed, everyone? Why would we do that? Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. Its certainly possible that she may well have not recognized Mr. X, even though he was apparently a neighbor. Pregnancies are also risky for 13 and 14 year old girls. He killed a woman. He states when he got home that night (13th) one of his neighbors had came over to ask if he could search his property, looking for the girls. He is happy to do so. That's a very interesting theory. He ran off for s copy for us and sent it to us in the mail. What are they doing to move this forward? We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is catching fire! . 10) Regarding crime scene: Red herrings to throw off law enforcement. Breathe so we can comment in between paragraphs pleaser. If the killer had that weird and I would assume rare fetish with the sticks, branches and stakes, maybe the local sex workers may know exactly who it is? Tobor I would love the info bcw4118@gmail.com. Thank you I came here after being directed to you. Only if he had sent this much audio to one of the girls phones after the crime. You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. He thinks it is Garrett Kirts. I've been unsuccessful trying to figure it out. I dont care what anybodys age is. Im from the UK too and once a crowd beat up a Paediatrician because they mistakenly thought it meant he was a paedophile. Frequently hunted deer on Rons land. Robert, I am wondering why no reply to my question? However, there are some good posters, especially on r/LibbyandAbby. This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. Correct. I believe there a at least a few who suspect this individual. Get real. The only DNA found on the girls was that of Kelsi, sister of Libby. These seem to have been packing plant workers in the Delphi area who get transferred over to the Evansdale area for periods of time to work on sister plants over there. Kelsi has been cleared. Urinating is no problem, but what if he had to defecate? If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? Kline admitted to state and federal agents that he opened the account just 12 days after the murders of Abigail Abby Williams and Liberty Libby German near Delphi in February 2017. The catfishing situation is not what we think. I don't think it was directly addressed in the episodes, but are you able to speculate on what degree of premeditation (if any) would your theory would have required on the part of your suspect? She recorded them for a good six minutes and definitely longer. It's quite active. He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. It is on the girls cellphones, but if you listen to it, you will just hear a bunch of unintelligible garble. Read free previews and reviews from booklovers. before that he was at dump and after that he went to fish store. It is interesting that they are looking for precisely 43 seconds of audio. Eventually the evidence I uncovered kept coming back to DP being the POI rather than him covering for someone. It was all over by 3:30 sure takes a lot of the heat off of LE for calling off that search, amirite? Not the people who called him distasteful. He said there could be an issue with DP's witness statement because DP wasn't read his miranda rights. Too much points to them to be coincidence. Theres no evidence that Tony Kline has ever been a suspect or has ever been interviewed by the police. I hope someday this horrendous crime will be solved. I dont know if its in a garage, or the shed, perhaps? You do a great job! But miranda rights are only for custodial interrogations, and I don't believe DP was ever in custody. Again, not saying that he did it. He took an undocumented deer trail and evaded the encountering of any individual upon his departure. When the Col. and Cpt did their very first episode back at the start the glaring fact shared was that the county has one of the highest sexual offender rates per capita in all of the US of A. Anyhow on YT one of the titles says former cheerleader. Not that thats necessarily relevant to the case, just that one of your pics above makes more sense now lol. I apologize for all of the questions. They deleted it because he was insisting people in the replies come to delphi so people can fight them irl. What? They simply dont have enough on him to get a conviction is all. There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. I live in Pennsylvania and have been interested in this case since the time it happened. We . Lets call this the intuitive hunch of an MI veteran. Please email if you do not want to reply here. So who is Mr. X? Read free previews and reviews from booklovers. Do you think someone was sitting in the car at the CPS building waiting for POI? Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. Forgive me if Ive missed this, but whats keeping police from arresting this guy? I am running into one issue with Mr. X. I was wondering if there might be a different thought on this. What did Ron Logan have to say about the BG photo? Senior high school: First years unknown but graduated from Delphi High School in 1984-85. He was married to Becky Pattys sister at the time, and I believe it was about a week afterwards that she posted on social media her husband was a monster then deleted it. Precisely how they were killed has never been revealed by police. I was never aware that anyone had any good evidence against this harmless-looking fellow. I am hoping this will possibly fit with somone elses knowledge and it will be helpful. Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14. Jesus, his pio needs a restraining order. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. And I happen to be trained as a Journalist. You are apparently a better sleuth than I am. Im not buying the fact that they just werent equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. DELPHI, Ind. And bringing in some random Redditor as your source? Etc. Of course they would look for that. Thanks. If this main POI isnt the bridge guy, he is definitely, without a doubt in my mind, involved in the murders of Abby and Libby in some form or fashion. So every time a kid gets killed in a sexual murder, LE goes looking for photos and videos of the murder because obviously everyone who kills a kid takes pics of it and videotapes it. She described his eyes as dark and evil. Not important? We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is catching fire! The 50-year-old married man arrested on Friday in connection with the 2017 Delphi murders has now been pictured for the first time - more than five years on from the double slaying of teenage best friends Libby German and Abby Williams.. Richard Matthew Allen, from Delphi, Indiana, was taken into custody at around midnight and booked into Carroll County Jail. Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. Recently, multiple local sources with knowledge have opened up to share that this was a hit ordered by a very powerful businessman who runs a criminal operation that some say is akin to a mafia-style family outfit. LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever. Thank you. Etc. Its a dead end. Why on Earth would someone stay next to their truck all through one evening and night through the next early AM and morning into the afternoon? If DP sues Skip and/or TCG for defamation, that will result in near certainty about his involvement. FSG didnt recognize him either, and Im sure that FSG and Mr. X knew each other. I may have questions, but that would be the extent.. Abby may have been naked below the waist. Were their clothes found with the bodies at the crime scene? Or are they the same person? So he obviously kept a copy of that for himself. At least three women have told News 8 that they received disturbing messages from either the anthony_shots profile or the personal account of Kegan Kline. Been following your blog from the start, and this is so close to what I have been feeling for a while now. Cookie Notice Im from the UK too and once a crowd beat up a Paediatrician because they mistakenly thought it meant he was a paedophile. Unverified and Probably Not True. He has a prosthetic foot due to diabetes, and no way could he high-tail it across that bridge. IMHO there is a main suspect, and I dont really care if everyone is pointing elsewhere. I almost have to wonder if thats why he later concocted the story about the keys, perhaps as an afterthought when he realized it would be hard to explain why he asked to search for the girls but then didnt find them somehow, Uhh I was more focused on finding my keys, I must have overlooked the two dead girls I was looking for in the first place.. I think the girls met up with BG somewhere on that trail before they got onto the bridge. Wow, this is some incredible news. Easy, they were lying! Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. LE asked him to move the vehicle. The rest are guardians. The end goal here is justice for Abby and Libby. Thats not very many. Cops have told us more than they told any of those guardians. Search results for "A Lindsey McCall Medical Mystery" at Rakuten Kobo. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. Case in point - he said last time that his suspect was currently in jail. I am thinking that maybe which ever one was pregnant may not have known. Then there is always the question of his occupation. Derrick German: Libbys father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. They then head back to find her friend and walk the trails together then later leaving while the search is going on. A handgun, in order to do ballistics tests on it. If this roommate is correct, it looks like Mr. X worked in 2011-2012 at as packing plant in the Delphi area, and he was moved to near Evansdale, Iowa for a period during these two years to work on a sister plant near Evansdale. Thats a GoPro on BGs waist and he filmed his crime. Must be a lot of people with that name. 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. Unfortunately, its not free. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. They say they want to prevent false confessions. At least two prior marriages. She was found in an ivory/white dress. Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month and charged with two counts of murder for the Feb. 2017 killings. This person is externalizing their pain into rage and projecting it outwards at the world. They have their own sources. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2021/04/04/delphi-murders-update-april-4-2021/. Its not clear how? News 8 is not using the names of the three women who openly shared their information. I must have the wrong name for your POI? A series of events where one girl screamed and then was quickly hit on the head with a blunt object, which we believe is a gun butt. DELPHI, Ind. There are many people who confuse him with PB in comments and videos. Im so sorry. Kline admits getting more than 100 sexual pictures and videos of underage girls using the anthony_shots profile. Im the one who did it. How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? This is what happened. We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. Besides, hes the wrong age, 27-28. Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 1984. We have no idea why the order was issued. We have 250 members in our group. Numbers 1-4 were told to a retired detective who works with one of our team members us by an LE source close to the investigation. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. They told us that Kegan Kline was not involved. If LE actually believes that BG was 50 years old, why did they put out this statement that he looks like this ridiculous sketch of a very young man or even an 18-40 year old man? I appreciate your style about not being afraid to put out things others wouldnt dare & or might even get accosted over doing soThose idiots are WEAK& most of them are hypocritesSome of the new YouTubers even, they first bitch about the same thing, then they start a channel, and the next thing you know, their moderators are hacking/choking& putting that ass in the corner for hours before allowing u to crawl back in, all bruised, & compliantNot for me. The. Im thinking theres around 10 more people, in addition to the four youve mentioned, that are involved with a retaliation/revenge motive. 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